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04-11-2004, 15:18:50 - swap dans 323 astina (BA) PHOTOS P.5
voila la question me trote dans la tete
je voudrai faire un swap dans ma 323
actuellment le moteur est un 1L5 16 de 90ch autant dire que c'est pas le top
ca marche bien mais il ne faut pas ete trop exigeant
les moteurs potentiels :
2L de la mazda 626
V6 2L de la mx6 ou xedos ou mazda 323 v6
V6 1L8 de la mx3
V6 2L5 de la mx6
donc vous en pensez quoi??
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05-11-2004, 12:32:58 -
va jetter un oeil sur mx6.com ou un truc comme ça en français ( http://www.mazda-mx6.com ), ils montrent comment préparer un block de mx6 je crois que c'est le 2.0LV6 ou 2.5V6 mais je suis pas sur... c'est peut-être un 2.0 16S...
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05-11-2004, 14:35:47 -
Juste une petite question car je ne connais pas du tout ce modele: et ce que tous les moteurs (ceux que tu as mentionne) peuvent au moins rentrer dans ton compartiment moteur ?? (au point de vue de la place)
D apres ce qu on m a dit les V6 marche pas trop mal: essaye avant une voiture le possedant . Si tu l as peut etre deja fait, qu est ce que tu en penses ?
Zoom-zoom-zoom -> Mazda POWAA
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07-11-2004, 23:44:08 -
comme l'a dit superda la conso je n'en fou
y'a des limites (pas plus de 18 litres )
pour le V6 200cv ce serait pas mal
maintenant faut trouver le moteur!!!
le V6 j'en ai essayé deux le 2L dans une MX6 le 1L8 dans une MX3
la MX6 semble lourde mais coupleuse
le mx3 nerveux mais manque en bas regime
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10-11-2004, 11:24:15 -
tout ca c des details
pour le train arriere j'en ai un qui traine de mazda 626 avec des disques
pour l'avant je prendrait celui de la voiture qui me donnera le moteur
pour le poids supplementaire a l'avant je mettrai soit les amortisseurs de la voiture greffe soit les miens avec les ressorts de l'autre
ou alors j'en ferai faire sur mesure
quand il y aura plus que ca!!
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14-11-2004, 14:43:05 -
Tu la trouvé ou ton PC avant?
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16-11-2004, 23:55:25 -
je me suis dis qqchose :
moteur 1L8 de mx3 = meme fixation que mon 1L5
moteur 1L8 de mx3 = meme fixation que le 2L5 de la mx6 (apparemment)
donc je peux (pourrait) mettre le 2L5 dans mon astina
non non je reve la
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17-11-2004, 12:10:24 -
en plus du swap on peut gagner du poids :
ceci a ete fait sur une mx3 mais la plupart des modifs peut etre transposée sur l'astina
Item ( element supprimé ou modifié)
Weight Saving (lbs) (gain de poids)
Comment (commentaire)
Remove rear wiper & wiper motor
3.0
The rear wiper is quite useless on the car. As soon as you start rolling, wind clears the rear glass. Furthermore, the car looks sleeker without it. Click here for a pic of the plugged wiper shaft hole and nice carbon fiber garnish.
Remove back seat
25.5
If there's not enough room for adults in the back, what are the seats for???
Remove inner plastic trims and brackets- aft front doors
16
Priority was set to build the largest and strongest Roll Bar so interior trims will not be reinstalled
Acrylic Sunroof wind deflector and retractable wind deflector
1.5
That thing was great to drive with the sunroof open under light rain but it hurts a bit the drag coefficient. Why need the retractable one when in racing conditions rood if always shut?
Replace OEM steering wheel by a Momo wheel
1.5
The OEM wheel weights a full 4 pounds (non-airbag version)!
Replace crank pulley by UORs aluminium underdrive pulley
2.5
Eliminate parasitic losses (more hp to the wheels) + reduce inertia on crank shaft + reduce static weight. Too bad you cant the part when you lift the hood!
Remove DRL power resistor
0.5
In my case I rewired the DRL function to the driving lights in the corner lamps so the bulky resistor to lower the high beam intensity can be removed
Remove hood insulation
0.5
Why would I want to reduce that sweet engine noise?
Remove undercarpet insulation or "fuzz"
2
That stuff is light but there a pile under the carpets!
Remove firewall insulation
8
Only removed driver and passenger side of thick rubbery mat and fuzz. Behind center console was too hard to reach without pulling the dash (probably another 2 pounds there)
Remove spare tire
12.0
A can of puncture sealer should do the job. If the wheel is damaged you would probably need a towing since the suspension will also be hurt
Remove jack and crank
5.0
If you don't have a spare why lift a wheel?
Remove front windshield washer fluid reservoir and use the rear reservoir
12.5
Since the rear wiper is out, why not relocate some weight to the back? Click here to see empty space.
Remove rear windshield washer fluid reservoir
4
Over a full summer I never used it so ditch it!
Remove hatch headliner
2
What for? No rear seat, no passengers in the back to hit their head against the hatch!
Remove Hatch inner trim
2
A bit of black racers tape was use to conceal the ugly white nylon harness holder. Like that no one will notice.
Remove passenger side sun visor
0.5
Sounds silly but that thing weight almost 2/3 of a pound. Passengers if they dare climb in the car will need sunglasses now
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Replace OEM cat-back by a custom cat-back, remove heat shields on exhaust, remove resonator heat shield on car
13.0
My new custom exhaust is missing the weight of a pair of flanges + a pre-silencer + heat shields + body heat shield over resonator location
Remove rear floor mats
1.5
No passengers, no mats
Remove cargo cover
4.0
No rear seat, anything to hide?
Remove rear seat belts
6.0
No rear seat
Empty glove box
1.0
Owner's manual
Engine hooks + bolts
0.5
I don't plan to swap the engine again in the upcoming week
Sound deadening mat'l over fuel tank/pump
3.0
Removed the thick mat under the rear seat
Remove tools
3.0
Wrench, wheel blocks
Front tow hooks
5.0
Bulky and heavy steel; probably to be replaced by a single aluminium one just in case...
Remove rear speakers
3.0
Sound was crappy anyway
Relocate battery
add weight :-(
In my case, 33 lbs shifted rearward (sealed battery box + 16' of 2 gauge wire added 9 lbs - battery tray and tiedown bolts removed saved 3lbs). I know I gained 6 pounds there but the weight transferred to the back is well worth it
Trade S/S scuff plates for the OEM plastic scuff plates
3.5
Stainless scuff plates were really nice but too heavy!
Remove fog lights
1
It's unlikely I encounter fog on a race track...
Remove Brake Dust Shields
2.5
Dust sheilds? Not to sure about that. The front one might provide some kind of heat protection while the rears might help keeping the rotors free of water? Let's give it a shot! Afterall this is unsprung weight!
Steel Vacuum tubing on rear head
1
I noticed that 5/8" steel tubing the last time I removed the intake manifold. It connects the rear valve cover to the intake pipe and front valve cover but in my KL version the last end of the pipe is blocked. So I removed it and used a flexible hose. There was also twin small vacuum pipes which one was unused so again flex pipe solved this!
Wheels
36
For racing purposes I had the luck of finding decent Toyo RA-1s in size 205/50/15. For those who do not know these tires, lets simply say the treadware rating is 30. I mounted the tires on American Racing's Estrella in 15x7". Weight of the wheel/tire combo: 35lbs. Weight of my 16" ATP's and Toyo T1+: 44 pounds which is already a bit less than the average wheel. Weight reduction is there but most importantly, reduction of unsprung weight and inertia is a big factor.
Relocate water bottle
0
Some folks might find this one funny. I relocated the water bottle where the battery was originally sitting. OK no big gain here but what the heck? It's 2.5lbs shifted from the nose to behind the front axle...
Racing Seat
9.5
Never thought the OEM seats were that heavy! 33lbs each. I replaced the drivers seat with a lightweight (14lbs without brackets) Momo "Start" fiberglass seat. Seat mount and sliders were modified to fit the Momo seat.
Carbon Fiber Radiator support
1.5
OEM stamped steel rad support was swapped in favor of SRD's Carbon fiber support. As a bonus, gives a 10hp boost when you open your hood to strangers!
Aluminium Crossmember
1.5
The 4.5lbs flexy OEM crossmember was replaced by a much stiffer in many ways SRD billet unit.
Coil overs
13.0
Ground control springs are 4 lbs lighter than the large OEM springs. Plus, removing the spring seating base & top & spring insulators and from the shocks body yields another 9lbs (coilover sleeves will now seat on a steel sleeve welded to the shocks body)
Doorlocks
0.5
I dont think I would need to unlock the passenger door when strapped in the racing seat. Gone are the LH switch, RH actuator and timer modules.
Passenger seat
33
Race-trim only
Tar insulation
19.5
And theres still some left on the firewall!!!
Hi-Flow Cat
3.5
Stock Cat swapped for a CATCO hi-flow cat. Not only it released 4hp & 5lbs/ft, the cat is significantly lighter. From a 12 long catalyst, the new one has only 6 of restriction.
Front Camber plates
1
Cusco adjustable camber plates are 0.5lbs each lighter than the stock shock mounts.
Carbon Fiber Hood
15
Without the insulation stock hood weights 30lbs. Not bad compared to other makes but still
Front control arm bushings
0.5
Swapped the stock bushings by SRD units made of Nylatron
Headers
5
Stock K8 manifolds, heat shields and y pipe are 23lbs compared to 18lbs for the Hotshot headers.
ABS & A/C FAN Fuse Block
0.5
Car doesnt have ABS and A/C? Throw that fuseblock and 8 gauge wire out of the car!
Sunroof liner
1
Watch out for my upcoming Carbon Fiber Sunroof!
Trunk latch release
0.5
Now need the key to open the latch!
Sunroof panel
7
Race trim only!
Sunroof mechanism
?
Window vent shades
0.5
Blocks visibility and adds some weight? Out of here!
Roof Headliner
1.5
Trunk Carpet
1
Font Carpet
9.5
Total
308
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