[b18c4] 4 paps home made

[minirock]

Beaucoup de monde aimerait passer en 4 paps à moindre cout donc je vous fait part de ma recherche pour optimiser au mieux les couts et reprendre ce qui existe déjà "à pas cher" pour nos moteurs

Donc voici une liste (non exhaustive) de rampe de moto qu'il est possible d'utiliser avec toutes leurs caractéristiques.
A cela vous rajoutez une pipe sur mesure à fabriquer et une reprog au banc.

Si vous avez des compléments d'info ou des modifications concernant une donnée fausse n'hésitez pas


SUZUKI

Make/Model: GSXR600
Year: -02
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 38mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 80-80-80mm
Overall Length: 83mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 44mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 45mm
Separate casting: Yes
Injector Make/Model: Keihin KN4, 0J07 AAA A
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): 240cc/min?, 13Î
Fuel Rail: Alu casted, Inside diameter 6mm (9mm in the ends)
Additional Info: sec. throttles controlled by ECU.



Make/Model: GSXR750
Year: -98, -99
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 46mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 80-80-80mm
Overall Length: 91mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 54mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 54mm
Separate casting: Yes
Injector Make/Model: Keihin,
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): 240cc
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: No sec. throttles.



Make/Model: GSXR1000
Year: -02
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: 42mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 80-80-80mm
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting: No (dual Tb´s)
Injector Make/Model: Keihin,
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): 230cc/min
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: sec. throttles controlled by ECU.



Make/Model: GSXR1000
Year: -03
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: Tapers from 50 to 42mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind):
Overall Length: 90mm
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter): 53mm
Separate casting: No (dual Tb´s)
Injector Make/Model: Keihin,
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): 230cc/min
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: Pic without secondary butterflies and fuel rail.



Make/Model: GSXR1300 (Busa)
Year: pre 2002 ?
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 42mm at injector end, tappered from 51mm at air horn end
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 80-80-80
Overall Length: 90mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 55mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 53mm
Separate casting: Yes
Injector Make/Model: Keihin,
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): ?
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter: PA66-G35
Additional Info: no secondary butterfly



KAWASAKI

Make/Model: ZX6R 636 B1
Year: 2003
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: 38mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 75-75-75mm
Overall Length: 90mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 52,6mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 50,8mm
Separate casting: No (dual Tb´s)
Injector Make/Model: BOSCH 280031V
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): 245cc/min
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info:



Make/Model: Z1000
Year:
Number of Tb:
Inside Diameter:
Center-Center (left to right from behind):
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting:
Injector Make/Model:
Flow Rate (45psi/100%):
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info:



Make/Model: GPZ1100
Year: 1981-198?
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 32mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 80-100-80mm
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake): 40mm ("serrated")
Outside Diameter (filter): 40mm ("olived")
Separate casting: Yes
Injector Make/Model:
Flow Rate (36psi/100%): 180-200cc/min, 2,5Î
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info:



YAMAHA

Make/Model: YZF-R6
Year: 2003-2004
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 38mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 72.5-72.5-72.5mm
Overall Length: 95mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 52mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 44mm
Separate casting: Not exactly, but can be cut apart easily (fuel rail)
Injector Make/Model: Keihin ?? # 250031F
Flow Rate (XXpsi/100%): XXXcc/min, 11.7Î , 12mH
Fuel Rail: Alu casted



Make/Model: R1
Year: -04
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: 43mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 78-78-78mm
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting: No (dual Tb´s)
Injector Make/Model:
Flow Rate (45psi/100%):
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info:




HONDA

Make/Model: CBR F4i
Year:
Number of Tb:
Inside Diameter:
Center-Center (left to right from behind):
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting:
Injector Make/Model:
Flow Rate (45psi/100%):
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info:



Make/Model: RC51
Year: 2000
Number of Tb: 2, 2 injectors per TB
Inside Diameter: 48mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 24mm (TB's are not parallel)
Overall Length: approx 40mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 60mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 70mm (not sure how filter fits)
Separate casting: Yes, TB's are independent, mounted to linkage bracket. Modification needed of fuel pipe and linkages to change spacing.
Injector Make/Model: ????/????
Flow Rate (XXpsi/100%): XXXcc/min, approx 11Î , ??mH
Fuel Rail: Alu casted, 1 per injector, joined by solid fuel lines
Additional Info: Comes with MAP, fuel regulator, TPS. Has a manual choke mechanism synchronized to both TBs. Not sure how it works - fast idle bleed perhaps?



Make/Model: CBR600RR3
Year:
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: 37mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 75-75-75mm
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting:
Injector Make/Model:
Flow Rate (45psi/100%):
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: Injectors mounted in cylinderhead.



Make/Model: CBR600FSi
Year:
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: 36mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 75-75-75
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting: No (dual Tb´)
Injector Make/Model:
Flow Rate (45psi/100%):
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info:



Make/Model: CBR 929
Year:
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 40mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 80mm-80mm-80mm
Overall Length of casting 70mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 49mm
Outside Diameter (filter): - flat flange for airbox
Separate casting: 2 twin body castings
Injector Make/Model: ?? Marked as OK24 B
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): not sure. RUns at 50psi
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: produces 150bhp at 11,500rpm from 74x54 929cc. 11:3.1 comp ratio, 10 litre airbox.



Make/Model: CBR900 954 Fireblade
Year:
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: 41mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 80-80-80
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting: No (dual Tb´s)
Injector Make/Model:
Flow Rate (45psi/100%):
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info:



Make/Model: CBR 1100 Blackbird
Year: ??
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: 42mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 85-85-85mm
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting: No (dual Tb´s)
Injector Make/Model: Keihin
Flow Rate (43psi/100%): ~335cc/min, 13Î
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info:



SNOW-MOBILE


ARCTIC CAT

Make/Model: ZR600 Snowmobile
Year: 1998
Number of Tb: 2
Inside Diameter: 46mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 134.5
Overall Length: 105mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 52mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 70mm
Separate casting: Not exactly, but can be cut apart easily (fuel rail)
Injector Make/Model: ??
Flow Rate (XXpsi/100%): XXXcc/min, 2.9Î , 5.8mH
Fuel Rail: Alu casted
Additional Info: 2-stroke snowmobile, parallel twin 600cc, 105hp



source: www.homemadeturbo.com

Donc pour le B18C4 ce sera du gsxr 1000 pour moi

[Whiplasher]

nice ^^

edites ton titre sinon il va partir au oubliettes ton post !

[minirock]

tu veux mettre quoi 4 paps home made ca reste une 4 paps je change on verra bien

[SebuSan]

intéressant...

il aurait été aussi bien dans le général, c valable pour toutes nos charettes...
si il existe pas déjà une FAQ, dans ce cas le mettre à la suite.

j'ajoute qlq mots clé: ITB, individual throttle body, rampe d'injection 4 papillons.

[minirock]

si vous voulez déplacez le y a pas de soucis je l'ai mis en honda juste parce que j'avais fait la recherche pour un B18

Pour moi l'idéal étant une FAQ avec juste les infos utiles mis à jour pour ne pas avoir de "pollution" qui alourdi la lecture

[civic-benji]

sa peut peut etre vous aider pour la fabrication de la rampe

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/itb/

ou sa

https://www.japancar.fr/forum/viewtopic....68#2141368

[Whiplasher]

tu veux mettre quoi 4 paps home made ca reste une 4 paps je change on verra bien

.......

LES REGLES

ici : https://www.japancar.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=119922

[DocteurH]

Vu le prix des ITB OBX sur Eboy c'est plus forcément trés intérressant je trouve,sauf si tu veux un diamétre particulier pour les papillons.

Sinon si tu as à disposition un TIG AC/DC et autres bricoles ça reste tout de même rentable,mais faut chercher les cornets qui vont bien et aimer la bricole........moi j'adorre

[zenabi segond du nom]

oula ca donne des idées
j'imagine

"ouai bah j'ai pistons et bielles renforcées embreyage renforcé admission 4 papillons de suzuki1000 gsxr"

[minirock]

oula ca donne des idées
j'imagine

"ouai bah j'ai pistons et bielles renforcées embreyage renforcé admission 4 papillons de suzuki1000 gsxr"

Selon les configs peut y avoir bien mieux que le gsxr!! faut regarder un peu quand meme aussi :roll:

par exemple sur un D16 meme forgé... je prendrais plus petit

[zenabi segond du nom]

ok mais j'ai mis gsrx parce ca parle a un neophyte moto c'est tout

[civic-benji]

prenez sur honda le capteur position papillion est le meme du coup pas trop d'enuit pour e calibrage

[zenabi segond du nom]

je deterre ce topic!

qqun à testé??

je me tate!

niveau faisceau ,faudrait faire quoi??

[hondapowaa]

post pour mémoire

[DocteurH]

Honda viens de racheter une filiale chimique spécialisée dans les acides caustiques :ange: .

Rust In Peace .

[CIVIC EG FRANCHY]

intéressent ta liste mais pour nos titine je dirais avec sertitude que la rampe du 954 ET 1000CBR RR sont les mieux a utilisé car méme connectique et méme sonde que sur nos voiture
moi j'utilise la 954 a chaque fois car il ya juste a recoupé une pipe stock soudé au tig 4 manchon et hop GT2I durite silicone X4 et on remonte et roule ma poule pour les moteurs D15 ET D16
n'oublions pas la carto

[hondapowaa]

jay mal o zoeilles

[DocteurH]

'09 SUZUKI GSX-R1000 K9
MSRP: $12,899
Engine
Type: Liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, DOHC inline four-cylinder
Displacement: 999cc
Bore x stroke: 74.5 x 57.3mm
Compression ratio: 12.8:1
Induction: SDTV, two injectors/cyl., 44mm throttle bodies

Source

[DocteurH]

Source

'07 SUZUKI GSX-R1000 K7
Compression ratio: 12.5:1
Induction: SDTV, two injectors/cyl., 44mm throttle bodies

[takumifujiwara]

Quelqu'un sait si une rampe de R6 de 2008 ça irait?

J'ai pas sous les yeux navré